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Post by Biblically Accurate Angel on Sept 16, 2018 13:26:30 GMT -5
So with a reboot on our hands, I thought it would be fun to go about creating a language for the Colorfolk. Given they're from Ordos, the language is called Ordonian, and is basically like Latin, in that it's dead but you can still learn it and converse in it. It isn't used by many outside of the Colorfolk, however, and they use it mostly for their mottos and as passcodes but on occasion you can still find them speaking it rather than English. They all learn it as children any way. So to start off, let's take a look at the Ordonian alphabet and how each letter is pronounced.
Aa - this letter an "ah" sound, similar to how it's pronounced in British English, German, and Spanish, etc. Bb - this letter makes a standard "b" sound. Cc - makes a "k" sound except when followed by e or i, when it makes a "s" sound, just like in English. Dd - makes a standard "d" sound. Ee - makes a standard "eh" sound. Fʃ - makes a normal "f" sound. However, the lowercase f (ʃ) is written like a long s, used in old writing. Gg - makes a normal "g" sound except when followed by e or i, when it makes a "j" sound, just like in English. Hh - is always silent. Ii - makes a normal "i" sound. Jj - makes an "h" sound. Kk - makes an "sh" sound. Ll - makes a normal "l" sound. Mm - makes a normal "m" sound. Nn - makes a normal "n" sound. Oo - makes an "oo" sound, like the way "ew" is pronounced in "new". Pp - makes a normal "p" sound. Qq - makes a normal "k" sound. "Qu" doesn't exist as a special sound and is merely pronounced like everything else. Rr - makes a normal "r" sound, but is rolled like in Swedish or Spanish. Ss - makes a soft "z" sound. Tt - makes a normal "t" sound. Uu - makes a normal "uh" sound. Vv - makes a normal "v" sound. Ww - makes a normal "w" sound. Xx - makes a normal "x" sound ("ks"). Yy - makes a long "I" sound. Zz - makes a "ts" sound. Åå - makes an "oh" sound. Ää - makes an American "a" sound. Öö - makes a standard "œ" sound. Üü - makes a standard "ue" sound. ß - makes a "ss" sound.
Thus far, we've only dealt with the short sounds. The long sounds are very simple - only "Aa" and "Ee" have them. They are pronounced the same as in English ("a" like in "plane" and "e" like in "street"). The sound is denoted by a ' over them ("á" and "é").
There are also a couple special sounds to note: ll - makes a "j" sound. sk - makes a softer "qu" sound.
The names of each of the letters are pronounced as follows: (I'm doing this in order)
ah / bee / see / dee / ee / fee / gee / ahee / ih / hee / shee / lee / mee / nee / oo / pee / koh / rree / zee / tee / uh / vee / wee / eksee / I / tsee / oh / ay / oe / ue / eszett
I think that just about covers everything. Now to start actually makes words! *sweats profusely*
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Post by frankthetriviaman on Sept 16, 2018 13:29:38 GMT -5
That's really well thought out Eyes; my concern though is that we haven't necessarily agreed that Ordos would be the new island's name, so I'm not sure if the name needs change;
Toz, tug, thoughts?
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Post by Toz76 on Sept 16, 2018 13:46:12 GMT -5
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Post by Biblically Accurate Angel on Sept 16, 2018 13:48:29 GMT -5
Yeah, I think at this point it’s agreed that Ordos is the island they come from.
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Post by Biblically Accurate Angel on Sept 16, 2018 14:25:28 GMT -5
The Number System:
1 - un 2 - dwa 3 - drä 4 - ʃwá 5 - qén 6 - sex 7 - sébá 8 - át 9 - nin 10 - ken 11 - kenun 12 - kendwa
And so on. The teens are written in the same style as all the other numbers when they double up.
20 - skán 30 - drán 40 - ʃwán 50 - qána 60 - sexa 70 - sébán 80 - áté 90 - ninán 100 - qián 125 - qiánskánqén 999 - ninqiánninánnin 1000 - milán 1,000,000 - måte 1,000,000,000 - bote 2,986,756,023 - dwaboteninqiánátésexsébánqiánqánasexskándrä
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Post by Toz76 on Sept 16, 2018 14:30:09 GMT -5
Does it use arabic numerals and base ten, then?
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Post by Biblically Accurate Angel on Sept 16, 2018 14:47:18 GMT -5
Yeah. Just like in Spanish they use 1 but call it uno, or in German they call it einz, or in English we call it one, in Ordonian they call it un. Same number, different name.
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Post by Biblically Accurate Angel on Sept 16, 2018 15:04:50 GMT -5
Primary Pronouns
I/me = Y You = Tu He = Hé She = Ké They = Ellå We = Maßöß It = It
Possessive Pronouns
My = Mé His = Háß Her = Káß Their = Ellåß Our = Maßößeß Its = Itß
A Bit About Verbs
In Ordonian, verbs that have not be conjugated are always denoted by "a". For instance, "to be" is "a ske". The "a" is dropped when conjugating.
When conjugating verbs in the simple present tense, all you do is drop the "a". The verb doesn't change based on the pronoun - it remains the same.
I am = Y ske You are = Tu ske He is = Hé ske She is = Ké ske They are = Ellå ske We are = Maßöß ske It is = It ske
The verb "ske" is an interesting case, as it has two pronunciations for the exact same word. The first is how it would be pronounced going by the Ordonian alphabet = "queh". The second, however, is technically breaking the rules set by the alphabet = "quay", or as it would be written in Ordonian normally, "ská". It's unknown why this is - perhaps it came about from slang, who knows? At any rate, neither is technically considered incorrect and both can be used interchangeably. It makes no difference how you pronounce it, so long as you know what you're talking about and you remember how to spell it.
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Post by Toz76 on Sept 16, 2018 15:19:55 GMT -5
Y ske quite impressed! Keep it up!
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Post by Biblically Accurate Angel on Sept 16, 2018 15:25:20 GMT -5
Conjuctions
And = é But = vuh Or = o Yet = llet Although = årda However = joráva Because = váqowß
Articles
A/an = un* The = te Some = sun
*"Un" also means "one". Therefore, in Ordonian, "one" and "a/an" are used interchangeably.
For instance, "money" is "qrån", which is also the name of the currency that Ordonians once used. Therefore:
A [dollar]* = un qrån The money = te qrån Some money = sun qrån Some [dollars]* = sun qrånes
*Technically "dollar" in Ordonian is "dållar" (pronounced "doh-jar"), but I used it in place here to demonstrate that an Ordonian would say "un qrån" like we would say "a dollar".
Pluralizing Nouns: simply add an "s" at the end when it ends in a vowel and add "es" when it ends it a consonant. Ex: qrån --> qrånes
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Post by Toz76 on Sept 16, 2018 15:37:49 GMT -5
Pluralizing Nouns: simply add an "s" at the end when it ends in a vowel and add "es" when it ends it a conjunction. Ex: qrån --> qrånes I think you mean consonant, not conjunction? Otherwise, nicely done!
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Post by Biblically Accurate Angel on Sept 16, 2018 15:40:27 GMT -5
Yeah I did, dunno why I wrote conjunction.
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Post by Biblically Accurate Angel on Sept 16, 2018 16:04:57 GMT -5
Some Verbs To have = a bem* To read = a leb* To know (someone) = a kena* To know (something [facts]) = a jum* To go = a gå To like = a liq To swim = a nad To make = a maká To do = a då To say = a ßáß To get = a llet To think = a zéq To take / to steal = a stéyån** To see = a sår To come = a toqum To want = a vantá To look = a llot To use = a lloß To find / to discover = a dißcoverár To give = a doná To tell / to explain = a explanå To work = a trabaja To call / to yell = a qol To try / to experiment = a tré To ask = a favur To need = a ned To feel = a ʃel To become = a vecombaßana To listen = a hor*** *Thanks to Toz76 for coming up with these! **In instances like this, the "y" makes a normal "yuh" sound. (Stee-yon) ***"Listen up" = "hor up"
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Post by Biblically Accurate Angel on Sept 16, 2018 16:44:11 GMT -5
Some Nouns:
area = aráa book = lébrå business = vecéneßa case = caßa child = qida company = companéana country = vertalenda* day = dag eye = elense fact = månʃacta family = ʃamili government = lendakop** group = grupa hand = handa home = håm job = trab life = léßa lot = låt*** man = mun money = qrån month = månat mother = modre Mister/Mr = Seqéß / Sq night = nåt number = nombre part = parta people = menßen place / location = låqazån point = punqt problem = pråblám program = prågram question = skeßtona right = rit room = ram school = skáa state = stat story = gaskita student = estud study = estudé system = zißtám thing = skving time = tym water = vadå way = veg week = weka woman = skemun word = vord work = varq world = veld year = yar****
*"Verta" means "birth"; "lenda" means "land". Therefore, "country" and "homeland" are the same words in Ordonian. One could say "mé vertalenda" and you would be saying both "my country" and "my homeland".
**As stated above, "lenda" means "land". "Kop", meanwhile, means "head", so when you say "lendakop", you're really saying "head of the land".
***"Lot" refers to both a "lot", like a parking lot, which is "parkalåt", and "a lot", which is "un låt".
****Another case of "y" being pronounced like an English y ("yar", not "I-ar").
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Post by Toz76 on Sept 16, 2018 17:04:03 GMT -5
Unfortunately, there are no adjectives yet, so I can't say "this is really good", but I can say: It bem sun vords
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Post by Biblically Accurate Angel on Sept 16, 2018 17:47:53 GMT -5
Verb Tenses
If you recall, all verbs that have not been conjugated have "a" in front. Then in simple present tense, the "a" is dropped and only the verb remains.
Ex: I read = Y leb
In the simple past tense, you simply add a "d" to the end of the verb.
Ex: I read = Y lebd
In the simple future tense, you add "vil" before the verb. "Vil" = "will"
Ex: I will read = Y vil leb
In the present perfect tense, "has" and "have" are translated into "hab".
Ex: I have read = Y hab leb She has read = Ké hab leb
In the past perfect tense, "had" is "had" (the "h", of course, is silent).
Ex: I had read = Y had leb
In the future perfect tense, you use both "vil" and "hab".
Ex: I will have read = Y vil hab leb
Finally, the continuous form - rule of thumb is that any verb that in English would get an "-ing" gets an "-en" in Ordonian. This is where we finally get different forms of "a ske".
Ex: I am reading = Y ske leben I was reading = Y vár leben I will be reading = Y vil ske leben I have been reading = Y hab sken leben I had been reading = Y had sken leben I will have been reading = Y vil hab sken leben
Again, this verbs don't change with different pronouns.
Ex: She is reading = Ké ske leben She will have been reading = Ké vil hab sken leben
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Post by Biblically Accurate Angel on Sept 16, 2018 18:14:51 GMT -5
And now the moment you've all been waiting for - swears. Ordonian curse word are extremely similar to English ones, as they had kinda / sorta / somewhere down the road a 'common ancestor'. Let's go through Carlin's Deadly 7. Shit = Kit Piss = Urén Fuck = Fuq Cunt = Cunt Cocksucker = Hanvuqeter Motherfucker = Modreʃuqer Tits = Titas A bit of a note on these words, by the way: "A kit" is the same thing as "to poop". " To defecate", however, is " a deʃactana". "Urén" is also the word for "urine" and "a urén" means "to urinate". " Han" means " rooster / cock" in Ordonian, and " a vuqet" means " to suck". You'll notice that there's an "-er" at the end of both "hanvuqeter" and "modreʃuqer". Just like in English, "-er" can be added to verbs to make them nouns. Just like "work" can become "worker", so can "trabaja" become "trabajaer". (Though because the noun "work" is "varq", workers can also be called "varqeres".) "Tita" is used for breast, boob, tit, and whatever other word you can find for these things. However, Ordonians are also very imaginative. You can come up with a curse by just stringing together a bunch of words into one, right on the spot. "Tu månʃactaʃamililendakop!" = "You fact family government!" > it may make no sense in English, but it does perfectly in Ordonian. So when you're swearing in Ordonian, you can go the standard route, or you can be really creative. Take your choice.
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Post by gav on Sept 16, 2018 19:00:53 GMT -5
this is better than my spanish class
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Post by Biblically Accurate Angel on Sept 16, 2018 20:22:48 GMT -5
Adverbs
You can often identify adverbs by the suffix "-lé", similar to the English suffix "-ly". Take note, however - any "ll"s are still pronounced "j". "Real" in Ordonian is "rel", and "really" is "rellé", pronounced "reh-jee".
Up = up So = så Out = ot Just = yüßt Now = no How = ho Then = den More = mor Also = anßwar Here = ere Well / good = gud* Only = önle Very = rá Even = éen Back = baq There = ár Down = dun Still = Kil In = en As = äß To = a When = ven Never = náär Really = rellé Most = Mößt On = ån Why = wy About = bota Over = åär Again = jen Where = jär Right = rit Off = åʃ Always = awáya** Today = höta All = al Far = ʃer Long = lagan Away = awáy** Yet = llet Often = åta Ever = áar However = joráva Almost = åmå Later = latre Much = munßq Once = unß Least = leßta Ago = agå Together = alvarand
*Notice that in Ordonian "good" and "well" are the same thing. Also take note, becuase "gud" is the same word for "God" ("Gud"). **Take note: In "awáya", the y is pronounced as in English ("ah-way-yah"). However, in "awáy", it's pronounced as a normal Ordonian y (ah-way-I").
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Post by Biblically Accurate Angel on Sept 16, 2018 21:00:47 GMT -5
Adjectives
Able = able Bad = mel Best = prémárå Better = prema Big / large = larga Certain = ßertanémenta Clear = qlar Different = iʃerented Early = árel Easy = eßa Economic = ycönom Federal = eʃederål Free = ʃry Full = ʃol Good = gud Great = gudarå Hard = harda High = hy Human = menßán Important = émportantá International = arundlendal Late = latå Little = qléne Local = llocäl Long = lagan Low = lo Major = mayeta* Military = millataro National = lendal New = nö Old = alta Only = önle Other = otra Political = lendakopal Possible = påßéble Public = åpán Real = rel Recent = reßenta Right = rit Small = katå Social = botreʃel Special = eßpezial Strong = ßtorgen Sure = kár True = dreu Whole = aldan Young = altá
*Another instance of the normal English y sound ("mah-yet-ah").
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