Post by frankthetriviaman on Sept 16, 2018 1:47:28 GMT -5
Tugboatfan4444
Heyo
Welcome to the Colorfolk Wikia chat
11:44
Frankthetriviaman
hello
hows it going?
11:46
Tugboatfan4444
Good
11:46
Frankthetriviaman
So like I mentioned in that PM, something very important I needed to discuss with you about facebook, since something occurred to me
11:47
Toz76
Hi
11:47
Frankthetriviaman
I noticed that your friends list was mostly friends and family that you know in real life so... would it raise alarms with your familiy if you suddenly befriended someone six years your senior from another state?
11:47
Tugboatfan4444
Yes Franky?
Nope
11:48
Frankthetriviaman
Phew, that's a reilef
11:48
Tugboatfan4444
I rarely use it so it won't be a problem
11:48
Frankthetriviaman
I had to sure- I know there are some parents who are like that, so I didn't want to cause you any trouble
11:49
Tugboatfan4444
I'm an adult, they can't get on my case too much about it
11:49
Frankthetriviaman
yea I guess that's true
Ok, request officially accepted
Now I'm friends with all three of you on facebook; even though Toz really only uses it for trainstation
11:50
Toz76
That and the EGS fan group, yep
11:51
Tugboatfan4444
Sup Tozzer, bee nawhile
11:52
Toz76
That it has
How are you?
11:52
Tugboatfan4444
Stil lcan't type for shit
Shit
Fine, enjoying the college life, it kind of sucks lol
11:53
Frankthetriviaman
Would this be an anime cuniform moment or an anime teardrop moment
11:54
Tugboatfan4444
Both
11:54
Frankthetriviaman
Ah, manga shorthand... so iconic, and yet, so weird
"Wow, she looks amazing in that bikini!"
*Gets horrible nosebleed
"Oh my God I'm so scared and shocked!"
*eyes go white as pupils disappear
"Gah! I'm so embarrased!"
*Weird red squiggle appears across cheeks
11:56
Toz76
I still don't understand that nosebleed one
11:56
Frankthetriviaman
Truthfully- no one does
11:57
Toz76
I once read this fanfic of a cartoon that tried to be all realistic and grimdark, but the characters still got nosebleeds when they were attracted to someone and I was just like "why"
11:57
Frankthetriviaman
But it's a long held staple shorthand for... I think they called it lust, so I guess its just reached a point where everyone just rolls with it
11:57
Tugboatfan4444
It's a cultural thing, the joke is that Japanese people have high blood pressure, therefore, they get nosebleeds when they are sexually aroused
11:58
Frankthetriviaman
Cough cough Strike the Blood cough cough
11:59
Toz76
Wait, there's an actual reason behind it? Huh
11:59
Tugboatfan4444
Yeah, there are cultural explanations to a lot of foreign things
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12:00
Frankthetriviaman
No really, that's literally the main character's whole shtick- he's a vampire high schooler (who can still function in the day) and instead of sucking the blood of others, he gets nosebleeds when he's aroused and drinks that blood
Anime has gone in a lot of weird directions in the past decade
and the gang's all here
12:04
Toz76
Woo
12:04
Frankthetriviaman
Big news Eyes
Tug found me on facebook- so now the four of us are connected in some way on there
And by some way- I mean that the three of you are friends with me
12:05
Tugboatfan4444
Woo
12:06
Frankthetriviaman
So tug, how goes college? Any major exams yet?
12:06
Tugboatfan4444
I had a test, lots of essays
12:06
Frankthetriviaman
Ah, the good old days
remember something very important tug
12:07
Tugboatfan4444
You get a Funi account yet Franky?
12:07
Frankthetriviaman
Not yet; I was watching some youtube videos to see what the upcoming season is going to be like for anime
Doesn't look like much interesting coming out compared to now; probably a great time to get a funi account and start one piece
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Tugboatfan4444
Yep, it's a perfect time to watch 574 episodes!
12:11
Frankthetriviaman
wow, the dub is that far behind?
the sub's at 1000 something
Don't worry toz; this anime season you didn't miss much
12:12
Tugboatfan4444
853
Just watched it tonight
Only at 918 chapterwise though
12:13
Frankthetriviaman
there were a couple Iskai anime; an anime about a ghost girl at a hot spring, and an anime about the cells in your body as if they were people in a city
that's pretty much it
......
12:15
Tugboatfan4444
It's not the most exciting season but it's a decent one, Fall looks ok, maybe worse
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Frankthetriviaman
When it comes to Isekai you had your choice toz; you could have How Note to Summon A Demon Lord- the one about the young man who goes to another world set similar to Earth that's set in a distant past, and goes on an adventure while surrounded by a bunch of cute girls.
Or you could have The Master of Ragnarok & Blesser of Einherjar, the one about the young man who goes to another world set similar to Earth that's set in a distant past, and goes on an adventure while surrounded by a bunch of cute girls.]
Wait a minute, that sounds similar to Death March to the Parallel World Rhapsody from a couple seasons ago, the one about the young man who goes to another world set similar to Earth that's set in a distant past, and goes on an adventure while surrounded by a bunch of cute girls.
Man, these Isekai's really don't like experimenting with the formula, do they?
12:21
Tugboatfan4444
The slime one next season is good Franky, it's also a two course!
12:21
Toz76
Whomst'd've
12:21
Frankthetriviaman
two course?
12:22
Tugboatfan4444
One season for Fall 2018, antoehr season for winter 2019
12:22
Frankthetriviaman
ah
12:22
Tugboatfan4444
*another
12:23
Toz76
I don't even know what Isekai is retty
12:23
Frankthetriviaman
Isekai- transported to another world
It's kinda "the big trend" in anime in the past couple years
12:24
Tugboatfan4444
Sekai is the japanese word for "world" so isekai is the term for "another world", it's the genre where someone is sent to another world, usually fntasy
*fantasy
12:24
Frankthetriviaman
In Another World with My Smartphone
Death March to the Parallel World Rhapsody
How Not to Summon A Demon Lord
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Tugboatfan4444
How Not to Summon The Demon Lord - The Demon Lord From Another World
12:24
Frankthetriviaman
The Master of Ragnarok & Blesser of Einherjar
Overlord
And that's just the ones Funimation and Crunchyroll handle
12:25
Tugboatfan4444
God there are so many, too many to name honestly
12:27
Frankthetriviaman
Yea but I think we hit the big ones
12:28
Tugboatfan4444
Nah, there's:
Konosuba
Re;Zero
Angel Beats
No Game No Life
Relife
SAO even
Just too goddamn many...
12:30
Toz76
Damn
12:30
Frankthetriviaman
But isn't SAO take place in an online world that's in the real world though?
12:30
Tugboatfan4444
Yeah, but Season 3 changes that
BTW, they announced 48 episodes for Season 3, it's running for each season next year
Aniplex hasn't put money like that into a show since FMA:B
12:32
Toz76
Noth
^nothing has deserved it since FMAB
12:32
Frankthetriviaman
So when does your first major break come tug?
If things in Florida are anything like in New York- you should at the very least be getting a full week or two off- one for the week of Christmas- and you get the Thursday and Friday for Thanksgiving
12:34
Tugboatfan4444
Thanksgiving
You watched some anime since we've last talked Toz?
12:35
Toz76
I'm afraid not
12:36
Tugboatfan4444
Alright, if you do, yeah, watch FMA/FMA:B
12:37
Toz76
I finally convinced my family that video games aren't the root of all evil, so much of my free time for the foreseeable future shall be sunk into Skyrim
12:37
Tugboatfan4444
Have fun, the mods are great for it
12:40
Toz76
Will do
12:40
Tugboatfan4444
So Franky, what's up?
12:41
Frankthetriviaman
had a rough week- Friday was at work 10 1/2 hours
12:42
Tugboatfan4444
Oof
Anything you want to talk about?
12:42
Frankthetriviaman
Rough day; took on two really big assignments; which for obvious reasons I can't discuss the finer details
12:42
Tugboatfan4444
Good ole' NDAs
12:44
Toz76
Sounds rough
12:44
Frankthetriviaman
Well technically there aren't NDA's, but we're still under obligation to not discuss them on social media or anywhere publicly viewable- mainly because of the nature of the work
Don't worry- I enjoy what I do
sometimes it just gets a bit tedious is all
12:47
Tugboatfan4444
I can't wait for the day you cameo on Law and Order
12:51
Frankthetriviaman
Eh, maybe... who knows
And I can't wait for Baleros and the anime to resume
All seriousness though- don't worry tug, I know you're busy, we'll finish up Baleros when the time is right
12:53
Tugboatfan4444
I still am pissed it refreshed on me
*I'm
Nv
**Nvm
12:54
Frankthetriviaman
Believe me tug- I know how you feel
12:54
Tugboatfan4444
The English language is gr8
12:54
Frankthetriviaman
I've had that happen more than once
Remember tug- second time around, you might think of things that you never thought of before and make it better
Remember- O'Connor taunting with "Finnegan's Wake"
12:57
Tugboatfan4444
I did, I and have notes from the first go around as well
12:58
Frankthetriviaman
Oh, by the way guys, I thought about it, and...
I realized with LM Titanic it was stupid to already have the murderer figured out at this point- ruins the fun for the rest of you. So going forward he will be a suspect, the guy I had in mind, but if we decide to shake it up with another being the murderer- I don't mind
The only thing I ask is that the murderer be a fictional character
1:00
Toz76
Okay
1:01
Tugboatfan4444
Gotcha
So...
1:05
Frankthetriviaman
?
Hang on; let me finish up with the Xbox; will be right with you
1:12
Tugboatfan4444
You done yet Franky?
1:15
Frankthetriviaman
yep
sorry about that
So I don't know if you've been keeping up tug
but I've gotten quite a number of entries done with Writer's Perspective
1:18
Tugboatfan4444
Haven't checked them out
1:19
Frankthetriviaman
That's ok; I know you're busy
I believe I did mention this before- but as I said, my goal for Writer's Perspective is that it will be one of the blocks that helps establish our identity as a creative writing forum
When you mentioned earlier that you had a number of essays to write for college- remember something very important btw
1:23
Tugboatfan4444
Yes?
1:23
Frankthetriviaman
when a professor says you have four weeks to work on something- that doesn't mean wait two weeks then start it; chances are, the nature of the assignment requires you to utilize all four weeks
it's a misconception I've seen several classmates fall for- so don't fall for the trap yourself; just a heads up
1:25
Tugboatfan4444
I've figured that out rather quickly Franky, you're preaching to the choir
1:26
Frankthetriviaman
good
1:27
Tugboatfan4444
So... Anyone want to work on the reboot?
1:28
Frankthetriviaman
I've got some stuff floating around
but I went to bed really late last night and I want to correct my internal clock; I'll work on it another time
1:30
Toz76
I'd like to work on it
1:30
Tugboatfan4444
So, you up for it then Tozzer?
1:30
Toz76
Yep
1:31
Tugboatfan4444
So wha tdo you want to talk about first then?
1:31
Frankthetriviaman
I know in the last major discussion what was decided was that we'd kinda create two univserses- one that "picks up where the old one left off" as a just for us deal- and there would be a new one, based on the old one, that we would structure in such a way to let new people join
1:32
Tugboatfan4444
Yes, this is the reboot game I want to work on rn
1:33
Toz76
Then let's do it
Where shall we start?
1:34
Tugboatfan4444
The plot, what are your ideas?
1:34
Frankthetriviaman
Ok, so this is the new, truly original universe then?
1:34
Tugboatfan4444
Si
1:34
Frankthetriviaman
Ah
1:34
Toz76
So, we're gonna keep the colorfolk/VEC/SOM/etc?
1:36
Tugboatfan4444
Si, just rewrite them, maybe change a few personalities and switch a few around, but a majority of the characters are staying
1:36
Frankthetriviaman
Makes sense
Kinda similar to how Marvel's Amazing Spider-man and Ultimate Spiderman are the same idea, but Ultimate is a reworking of the original
1:38
Toz76
We should definitely pare down the "main cast" a bit, we don't need to develop each character beyond a basic motive/role/powers
1:38
Tugboatfan4444
Yes, this will be like our version of an "Ultimate Universe"
1:38
Toz76
Which isn't to say we should write everyone out
Just not focus on so many characters
1:39
Tugboatfan4444
I'm thinking we do Good Vs Evil Colorfolk first, like the original game, but eventually morph into the rise of evil factions and unification of the Colorfolk
Split the council in half, have 6 good and 6 evil as the main cast
1:40
Toz76
One thing we could do is keep some of the evil color folk and have them join those evil factions
Like how the original Woman In Orange left the color folk to join VEC back in the day
1:41
Tugboatfan4444
Yep, maybe do away with that pesky morality check
1:41
Toz76
We'd have to change how the morality check and all that works though
1:41
Frankthetriviaman
Makes sense so far
1:41
Toz76
Oh hey, great minds think alike
1:42
Frankthetriviaman
I don't know... I mean to be honest I introduced the concept for only one reason, really
1:43
Tugboatfan4444
Also, I want to keep Man in Blue as the main character, but instead of being already well versed in Colorfolk mythos, he's just taken up the mantle from his recently killed father and is learning how to become the leader the Good Faction needs, plus, it helps the reader learn about the world as well as Daniel, plus keeps him from being a Marty Stu and boring as he eventually became after achieving his goal of unification
1:44
Frankthetriviaman
I'm not a fan of the whole "fallen from grace" origin story for villains; it's rather overdone and quite frankly I find villains with more original origins to be a lot more interesting in part because they are more original and unique to themselves
Man In Blue was never a Marty Stu- I just suck at character development
1:45
Tugboatfan4444
He wasn't originally, his character stagnated to the point were he became one Franky
1:45
Toz76
Here's my thought on how to colorfolk: We start like the main game did, with all of them evil except for the Blues, Whites, Silvers, and Golds
1:46
Tugboatfan4444
The tournament helped a bit, but when we stopped writing for the Colorfolk more or less altogether the writing was on the wall that lost their value
1:46
Toz76
Do away with the colorman/colorwoman dichotomy, it's too complicated
1:46
Frankthetriviaman
true
1:46
Toz76
Develop those 8, as well as a few select evil color folk
1:46
Tugboatfan4444
Franky, who's in the Council again?
1:46
Frankthetriviaman
Council of 12?
1:46
Tugboatfan4444
Yes
1:46
Toz76
The rest can mostly be extras, who could become recurring extras or even important extras if we like them enough
1:47
Frankthetriviaman
Blue red, yellow, orange, green, purple, black, white, silver, gold, brown, gray
1:47
Tugboatfan4444
The other 300+ can become hiden because the Evil ones are hunting them down or whatever
So Good MCs:
Blue
White
Gold
Silver
Brown
Purple
1:48
Frankthetriviaman
My thoughts were that to avoid something that amounts to a rehash of some of my weaker ideas- perhaps in this world
1:48
Tugboatfan4444
Bad MCs:
Black
Red
Green
Yellow
Orange
Gray
Does that work for you Toz?
1:50
Frankthetriviaman
what happened was X years ago- the Prism appeared and granted, on an individual basis, powers to those who were worthy. It was passed down through generations because the "Bloodline-spirit connection" thing
1:50
Toz76
I'd swap Yellow for Brown since Yellow was a sympathetic character originally, but otherwise it's pretty great
1:50
Tugboatfan4444
I kept Yellow evil because you originally wanted them to go from evil to good, which I thought might be a good arc to try again
1:51
Frankthetriviaman
As time went forward, they organized into a faction, which eventually split because of event Y
1:51
Tugboatfan4444
OR make it for the Grays since well, being "Morally Grey" is a term
1:51
Diesel 11
oh fuck what have i missed
1:51
Tugboatfan4444
Reboot Discussion
1:52
Diesel 11
this is what i get for spending over an hour reviewing an Alestorm album
1:52
Toz76
Maybe have the yellows start evil and the grays good, then they swap at some
^point
1:52
Tugboatfan4444
I'm fine with that
Good MCs:
Blue
White
Gold
Silver
Gray
Purple
Bad MCs:
Black
Red
Green
Yellow
Orange
Brown
1:53
Diesel 11
oh Tug is on FB?
1:53
Tugboatfan4444
Good then?
1:53
Toz76
Perfect
1:53
Diesel 11
that's cool and all but when is that bastard finishing LM 14
1:53
Tugboatfan4444
Yes Eyes
When you resume One Piece
1:53
Diesel 11
AAHAHCKCKC
1:54
Tugboatfan4444
When I get a chance/motivation TBH
College suxs
But,back to you Tozzer, thoughts on my MiB idea?
1:55
Diesel 11
*just lemme know when this discussion gets in a lull because i'd like to discuss some Alestorm with you
1:55
Frankthetriviaman
I would imagine how this starts is
It's been a long time since the main faction broke up, and from those ashes, not so much two distinct "good and evil" factions rose
1:56
Toz76
I approve of it Tug
1:56
Frankthetriviaman
but rather, the two main ones we focus on, and then there are secondary ones that rose with other goals in mind, or individuals who did not join any factions what so ever
1:56
Tugboatfan4444
Okie, then we got the basic plot, I guess onto main background details then?
1:57
Toz76
Well, are we gonna bother with VEC/SOM/GOD/PIC?
1:57
Frankthetriviaman
And the story is redeeming the bad ones and eventually reuniting the Colormen
Down the line, maybe
I don't want to fall into one of the traps that doomed the main game
1:59
Tugboatfan4444
Probably after the first major defeat of the Evil Faction where they've lost power, VEC would probably be a faction that rose from a side that didn't agree with good/evil, since Bronze/Blood I think should stay ancient Colorfolk
1:59
Frankthetriviaman
having too many plots going at once
I would rather them be original villains with ties to the colorfolk necessarily (see prior explanation), but if the majority wants them to stay that way, I won't oppose
2:00
Toz76
I want to change VEC and GOD a lot to make them work better
2:00
Tugboatfan4444
SOM as well
2:00
Diesel 11
i'd like to tinker with the PIC some more too
2:01
Toz76
So for example, VEC is a lot more recent, say the great grandparents of the current Bronze and Blood
2:01
Frankthetriviaman
I already have an explanation in mind for the whole VEC questionable recruits thing
2:01
Tugboatfan4444
Maybe not make them OCs Donut Steel
2:01
Toz76
They're the ones that caused the schism in the color folk, but the evil ones cast them out
2:01
Tugboatfan4444
I'm fine with that, I quite liek that actually
2:02
Toz76
Then they teamed up with a few other evil mages and holed up in Diablo Tower studying the Horned One
2:02
Tugboatfan4444
IF you want we can have Man in Iron/Man in Steel work with Bronze/Blood, just they split after the four groups were cast out
2:02
Toz76
So after the first major arc, the defeated evil color folk seek them out
I do like that
Then they can seek out Man In Iron/Metalicana later on
2:03
Tugboatfan4444
Steel would probably become neutral, while Iron would probably end up as Metalicana somehow
2:03
Frankthetriviaman
See, right now, magic usage is at an all time low in the world
2:04
Tugboatfan4444
OR Metalicana is the son of the Original Man in Iron and a Darkness Dragon Lokaskaya
2:04
Frankthetriviaman
I gotta get it ironed out at some point, but that's the basic premise for why some magic users are questionably effective
2:05
Tugboatfan4444
Prism Magic and Dragon's Natural Magic Ability mix to create one of the strongest magical beings in existance
That was your original reason in the game as well
2:05
Frankthetriviaman
Yes, that is true
I said it, but I never quite explained why
I need to get that clarified in order to preserve the suspense of disbelief
2:06
Toz76
Which leads into my new idea for GOD, actually
GOD are like the big, global, evil faction that sort of acts as a puppet master for the other evil factions
But they're also a lot less competent, so they can be quickly overthrown
Or at least weakened
2:07
Tugboatfan4444
SOM will become more Mafia like probably/Family will play an important role
I think instead of an island we can make Elbaf a magical plane where all the magical creatures who needed magic to survive went to after it started to diminish
2:09
Toz76
That can work
Actually, maybe we should have SOM operate there, which would prevent them from just showing up out of nowhere like they sort of did in the game
2:11
Tugboatfan4444
I'm fine with that, I like that as well Toz
We could even do a plot where magic is leaking from Elbaf into the real world, and they don't know from where, so creatures are crossing over, so SOM sends Scouts the Colorfolk have to deal with
I
m liking the reboot already
*I'm
We should fix the emojis or maybe get a discord server
2:13
Frankthetriviaman
Agree
2:13
Toz76
We have a discord server
One sec
2:13
Frankthetriviaman
or at least have a video chat thing
2:14
Toz76
Actually, I could video chat now if you all want
You guys have Skype?
2:16
Tugboatfan4444
IT's almost 2:30 and I have a roomate
*roommate
Google Hangouts/Discord is where it's at Tozzer, get with it
2:17
Toz76
discord.gg/WfrjK5b
Tada
2:19
Frankthetriviaman
discord is safe, right?
It wants my email and a password
2:19
Toz76
Yep
2:20
Frankthetriviaman
Whose swagbot?
2:20
Toz76
A bot
I dunno
Ask Eyes or possibly TGC
2:20
Diesel 11
it's a bot
2:20
Toz76
That link should be permanent btw
If someone wants to stick it on the homepage
2:21
Tugboatfan4444
Put in it the free space
ON the homepage
Heyo
Welcome to the Colorfolk Wikia chat
11:44
Frankthetriviaman
hello
hows it going?
11:46
Tugboatfan4444
Good
11:46
Frankthetriviaman
So like I mentioned in that PM, something very important I needed to discuss with you about facebook, since something occurred to me
11:47
Toz76
Hi
11:47
Frankthetriviaman
I noticed that your friends list was mostly friends and family that you know in real life so... would it raise alarms with your familiy if you suddenly befriended someone six years your senior from another state?
11:47
Tugboatfan4444
Yes Franky?
Nope
11:48
Frankthetriviaman
Phew, that's a reilef
11:48
Tugboatfan4444
I rarely use it so it won't be a problem
11:48
Frankthetriviaman
I had to sure- I know there are some parents who are like that, so I didn't want to cause you any trouble
11:49
Tugboatfan4444
I'm an adult, they can't get on my case too much about it
11:49
Frankthetriviaman
yea I guess that's true
Ok, request officially accepted
Now I'm friends with all three of you on facebook; even though Toz really only uses it for trainstation
11:50
Toz76
That and the EGS fan group, yep
11:51
Tugboatfan4444
Sup Tozzer, bee nawhile
11:52
Toz76
That it has
How are you?
11:52
Tugboatfan4444
Stil lcan't type for shit
Shit
Fine, enjoying the college life, it kind of sucks lol
11:53
Frankthetriviaman
Would this be an anime cuniform moment or an anime teardrop moment
11:54
Tugboatfan4444
Both
11:54
Frankthetriviaman
Ah, manga shorthand... so iconic, and yet, so weird
"Wow, she looks amazing in that bikini!"
*Gets horrible nosebleed
"Oh my God I'm so scared and shocked!"
*eyes go white as pupils disappear
"Gah! I'm so embarrased!"
*Weird red squiggle appears across cheeks
11:56
Toz76
I still don't understand that nosebleed one
11:56
Frankthetriviaman
Truthfully- no one does
11:57
Toz76
I once read this fanfic of a cartoon that tried to be all realistic and grimdark, but the characters still got nosebleeds when they were attracted to someone and I was just like "why"
11:57
Frankthetriviaman
But it's a long held staple shorthand for... I think they called it lust, so I guess its just reached a point where everyone just rolls with it
11:57
Tugboatfan4444
It's a cultural thing, the joke is that Japanese people have high blood pressure, therefore, they get nosebleeds when they are sexually aroused
11:58
Frankthetriviaman
Cough cough Strike the Blood cough cough
11:59
Toz76
Wait, there's an actual reason behind it? Huh
11:59
Tugboatfan4444
Yeah, there are cultural explanations to a lot of foreign things
Diesel 11 has joined the chat.
12:00
Frankthetriviaman
No really, that's literally the main character's whole shtick- he's a vampire high schooler (who can still function in the day) and instead of sucking the blood of others, he gets nosebleeds when he's aroused and drinks that blood
Anime has gone in a lot of weird directions in the past decade
and the gang's all here
12:04
Toz76
Woo
12:04
Frankthetriviaman
Big news Eyes
Tug found me on facebook- so now the four of us are connected in some way on there
And by some way- I mean that the three of you are friends with me
12:05
Tugboatfan4444
Woo
12:06
Frankthetriviaman
So tug, how goes college? Any major exams yet?
12:06
Tugboatfan4444
I had a test, lots of essays
12:06
Frankthetriviaman
Ah, the good old days
remember something very important tug
12:07
Tugboatfan4444
You get a Funi account yet Franky?
12:07
Frankthetriviaman
Not yet; I was watching some youtube videos to see what the upcoming season is going to be like for anime
Doesn't look like much interesting coming out compared to now; probably a great time to get a funi account and start one piece
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12:10
Tugboatfan4444
Yep, it's a perfect time to watch 574 episodes!
12:11
Frankthetriviaman
wow, the dub is that far behind?
the sub's at 1000 something
Don't worry toz; this anime season you didn't miss much
12:12
Tugboatfan4444
853
Just watched it tonight
Only at 918 chapterwise though
12:13
Frankthetriviaman
there were a couple Iskai anime; an anime about a ghost girl at a hot spring, and an anime about the cells in your body as if they were people in a city
that's pretty much it
......
12:15
Tugboatfan4444
It's not the most exciting season but it's a decent one, Fall looks ok, maybe worse
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12:18
Frankthetriviaman
When it comes to Isekai you had your choice toz; you could have How Note to Summon A Demon Lord- the one about the young man who goes to another world set similar to Earth that's set in a distant past, and goes on an adventure while surrounded by a bunch of cute girls.
Or you could have The Master of Ragnarok & Blesser of Einherjar, the one about the young man who goes to another world set similar to Earth that's set in a distant past, and goes on an adventure while surrounded by a bunch of cute girls.]
Wait a minute, that sounds similar to Death March to the Parallel World Rhapsody from a couple seasons ago, the one about the young man who goes to another world set similar to Earth that's set in a distant past, and goes on an adventure while surrounded by a bunch of cute girls.
Man, these Isekai's really don't like experimenting with the formula, do they?
12:21
Tugboatfan4444
The slime one next season is good Franky, it's also a two course!
12:21
Toz76
Whomst'd've
12:21
Frankthetriviaman
two course?
12:22
Tugboatfan4444
One season for Fall 2018, antoehr season for winter 2019
12:22
Frankthetriviaman
ah
12:22
Tugboatfan4444
*another
12:23
Toz76
I don't even know what Isekai is retty
12:23
Frankthetriviaman
Isekai- transported to another world
It's kinda "the big trend" in anime in the past couple years
12:24
Tugboatfan4444
Sekai is the japanese word for "world" so isekai is the term for "another world", it's the genre where someone is sent to another world, usually fntasy
*fantasy
12:24
Frankthetriviaman
In Another World with My Smartphone
Death March to the Parallel World Rhapsody
How Not to Summon A Demon Lord
12:24
Tugboatfan4444
How Not to Summon The Demon Lord - The Demon Lord From Another World
12:24
Frankthetriviaman
The Master of Ragnarok & Blesser of Einherjar
Overlord
And that's just the ones Funimation and Crunchyroll handle
12:25
Tugboatfan4444
God there are so many, too many to name honestly
12:27
Frankthetriviaman
Yea but I think we hit the big ones
12:28
Tugboatfan4444
Nah, there's:
Konosuba
Re;Zero
Angel Beats
No Game No Life
Relife
SAO even
Just too goddamn many...
12:30
Toz76
Damn
12:30
Frankthetriviaman
But isn't SAO take place in an online world that's in the real world though?
12:30
Tugboatfan4444
Yeah, but Season 3 changes that
BTW, they announced 48 episodes for Season 3, it's running for each season next year
Aniplex hasn't put money like that into a show since FMA:B
12:32
Toz76
Noth
^nothing has deserved it since FMAB
12:32
Frankthetriviaman
So when does your first major break come tug?
If things in Florida are anything like in New York- you should at the very least be getting a full week or two off- one for the week of Christmas- and you get the Thursday and Friday for Thanksgiving
12:34
Tugboatfan4444
Thanksgiving
You watched some anime since we've last talked Toz?
12:35
Toz76
I'm afraid not
12:36
Tugboatfan4444
Alright, if you do, yeah, watch FMA/FMA:B
12:37
Toz76
I finally convinced my family that video games aren't the root of all evil, so much of my free time for the foreseeable future shall be sunk into Skyrim
12:37
Tugboatfan4444
Have fun, the mods are great for it
12:40
Toz76
Will do
12:40
Tugboatfan4444
So Franky, what's up?
12:41
Frankthetriviaman
had a rough week- Friday was at work 10 1/2 hours
12:42
Tugboatfan4444
Oof
Anything you want to talk about?
12:42
Frankthetriviaman
Rough day; took on two really big assignments; which for obvious reasons I can't discuss the finer details
12:42
Tugboatfan4444
Good ole' NDAs
12:44
Toz76
Sounds rough
12:44
Frankthetriviaman
Well technically there aren't NDA's, but we're still under obligation to not discuss them on social media or anywhere publicly viewable- mainly because of the nature of the work
Don't worry- I enjoy what I do
sometimes it just gets a bit tedious is all
12:47
Tugboatfan4444
I can't wait for the day you cameo on Law and Order
12:51
Frankthetriviaman
Eh, maybe... who knows
And I can't wait for Baleros and the anime to resume
All seriousness though- don't worry tug, I know you're busy, we'll finish up Baleros when the time is right
12:53
Tugboatfan4444
I still am pissed it refreshed on me
*I'm
Nv
**Nvm
12:54
Frankthetriviaman
Believe me tug- I know how you feel
12:54
Tugboatfan4444
The English language is gr8
12:54
Frankthetriviaman
I've had that happen more than once
Remember tug- second time around, you might think of things that you never thought of before and make it better
Remember- O'Connor taunting with "Finnegan's Wake"
12:57
Tugboatfan4444
I did, I and have notes from the first go around as well
12:58
Frankthetriviaman
Oh, by the way guys, I thought about it, and...
I realized with LM Titanic it was stupid to already have the murderer figured out at this point- ruins the fun for the rest of you. So going forward he will be a suspect, the guy I had in mind, but if we decide to shake it up with another being the murderer- I don't mind
The only thing I ask is that the murderer be a fictional character
1:00
Toz76
Okay
1:01
Tugboatfan4444
Gotcha
So...
1:05
Frankthetriviaman
?
Hang on; let me finish up with the Xbox; will be right with you
1:12
Tugboatfan4444
You done yet Franky?
1:15
Frankthetriviaman
yep
sorry about that
So I don't know if you've been keeping up tug
but I've gotten quite a number of entries done with Writer's Perspective
1:18
Tugboatfan4444
Haven't checked them out
1:19
Frankthetriviaman
That's ok; I know you're busy
I believe I did mention this before- but as I said, my goal for Writer's Perspective is that it will be one of the blocks that helps establish our identity as a creative writing forum
When you mentioned earlier that you had a number of essays to write for college- remember something very important btw
1:23
Tugboatfan4444
Yes?
1:23
Frankthetriviaman
when a professor says you have four weeks to work on something- that doesn't mean wait two weeks then start it; chances are, the nature of the assignment requires you to utilize all four weeks
it's a misconception I've seen several classmates fall for- so don't fall for the trap yourself; just a heads up
1:25
Tugboatfan4444
I've figured that out rather quickly Franky, you're preaching to the choir
1:26
Frankthetriviaman
good
1:27
Tugboatfan4444
So... Anyone want to work on the reboot?
1:28
Frankthetriviaman
I've got some stuff floating around
but I went to bed really late last night and I want to correct my internal clock; I'll work on it another time
1:30
Toz76
I'd like to work on it
1:30
Tugboatfan4444
So, you up for it then Tozzer?
1:30
Toz76
Yep
1:31
Tugboatfan4444
So wha tdo you want to talk about first then?
1:31
Frankthetriviaman
I know in the last major discussion what was decided was that we'd kinda create two univserses- one that "picks up where the old one left off" as a just for us deal- and there would be a new one, based on the old one, that we would structure in such a way to let new people join
1:32
Tugboatfan4444
Yes, this is the reboot game I want to work on rn
1:33
Toz76
Then let's do it
Where shall we start?
1:34
Tugboatfan4444
The plot, what are your ideas?
1:34
Frankthetriviaman
Ok, so this is the new, truly original universe then?
1:34
Tugboatfan4444
Si
1:34
Frankthetriviaman
Ah
1:34
Toz76
So, we're gonna keep the colorfolk/VEC/SOM/etc?
1:36
Tugboatfan4444
Si, just rewrite them, maybe change a few personalities and switch a few around, but a majority of the characters are staying
1:36
Frankthetriviaman
Makes sense
Kinda similar to how Marvel's Amazing Spider-man and Ultimate Spiderman are the same idea, but Ultimate is a reworking of the original
1:38
Toz76
We should definitely pare down the "main cast" a bit, we don't need to develop each character beyond a basic motive/role/powers
1:38
Tugboatfan4444
Yes, this will be like our version of an "Ultimate Universe"
1:38
Toz76
Which isn't to say we should write everyone out
Just not focus on so many characters
1:39
Tugboatfan4444
I'm thinking we do Good Vs Evil Colorfolk first, like the original game, but eventually morph into the rise of evil factions and unification of the Colorfolk
Split the council in half, have 6 good and 6 evil as the main cast
1:40
Toz76
One thing we could do is keep some of the evil color folk and have them join those evil factions
Like how the original Woman In Orange left the color folk to join VEC back in the day
1:41
Tugboatfan4444
Yep, maybe do away with that pesky morality check
1:41
Toz76
We'd have to change how the morality check and all that works though
1:41
Frankthetriviaman
Makes sense so far
1:41
Toz76
Oh hey, great minds think alike
1:42
Frankthetriviaman
I don't know... I mean to be honest I introduced the concept for only one reason, really
1:43
Tugboatfan4444
Also, I want to keep Man in Blue as the main character, but instead of being already well versed in Colorfolk mythos, he's just taken up the mantle from his recently killed father and is learning how to become the leader the Good Faction needs, plus, it helps the reader learn about the world as well as Daniel, plus keeps him from being a Marty Stu and boring as he eventually became after achieving his goal of unification
1:44
Frankthetriviaman
I'm not a fan of the whole "fallen from grace" origin story for villains; it's rather overdone and quite frankly I find villains with more original origins to be a lot more interesting in part because they are more original and unique to themselves
Man In Blue was never a Marty Stu- I just suck at character development
1:45
Tugboatfan4444
He wasn't originally, his character stagnated to the point were he became one Franky
1:45
Toz76
Here's my thought on how to colorfolk: We start like the main game did, with all of them evil except for the Blues, Whites, Silvers, and Golds
1:46
Tugboatfan4444
The tournament helped a bit, but when we stopped writing for the Colorfolk more or less altogether the writing was on the wall that lost their value
1:46
Toz76
Do away with the colorman/colorwoman dichotomy, it's too complicated
1:46
Frankthetriviaman
true
1:46
Toz76
Develop those 8, as well as a few select evil color folk
1:46
Tugboatfan4444
Franky, who's in the Council again?
1:46
Frankthetriviaman
Council of 12?
1:46
Tugboatfan4444
Yes
1:46
Toz76
The rest can mostly be extras, who could become recurring extras or even important extras if we like them enough
1:47
Frankthetriviaman
Blue red, yellow, orange, green, purple, black, white, silver, gold, brown, gray
1:47
Tugboatfan4444
The other 300+ can become hiden because the Evil ones are hunting them down or whatever
So Good MCs:
Blue
White
Gold
Silver
Brown
Purple
1:48
Frankthetriviaman
My thoughts were that to avoid something that amounts to a rehash of some of my weaker ideas- perhaps in this world
1:48
Tugboatfan4444
Bad MCs:
Black
Red
Green
Yellow
Orange
Gray
Does that work for you Toz?
1:50
Frankthetriviaman
what happened was X years ago- the Prism appeared and granted, on an individual basis, powers to those who were worthy. It was passed down through generations because the "Bloodline-spirit connection" thing
1:50
Toz76
I'd swap Yellow for Brown since Yellow was a sympathetic character originally, but otherwise it's pretty great
1:50
Tugboatfan4444
I kept Yellow evil because you originally wanted them to go from evil to good, which I thought might be a good arc to try again
1:51
Frankthetriviaman
As time went forward, they organized into a faction, which eventually split because of event Y
1:51
Tugboatfan4444
OR make it for the Grays since well, being "Morally Grey" is a term
1:51
Diesel 11
oh fuck what have i missed
1:51
Tugboatfan4444
Reboot Discussion
1:52
Diesel 11
this is what i get for spending over an hour reviewing an Alestorm album
1:52
Toz76
Maybe have the yellows start evil and the grays good, then they swap at some
^point
1:52
Tugboatfan4444
I'm fine with that
Good MCs:
Blue
White
Gold
Silver
Gray
Purple
Bad MCs:
Black
Red
Green
Yellow
Orange
Brown
1:53
Diesel 11
oh Tug is on FB?
1:53
Tugboatfan4444
Good then?
1:53
Toz76
Perfect
1:53
Diesel 11
that's cool and all but when is that bastard finishing LM 14
1:53
Tugboatfan4444
Yes Eyes
When you resume One Piece
1:53
Diesel 11
AAHAHCKCKC
1:54
Tugboatfan4444
When I get a chance/motivation TBH
College suxs
But,back to you Tozzer, thoughts on my MiB idea?
1:55
Diesel 11
*just lemme know when this discussion gets in a lull because i'd like to discuss some Alestorm with you
1:55
Frankthetriviaman
I would imagine how this starts is
It's been a long time since the main faction broke up, and from those ashes, not so much two distinct "good and evil" factions rose
1:56
Toz76
I approve of it Tug
1:56
Frankthetriviaman
but rather, the two main ones we focus on, and then there are secondary ones that rose with other goals in mind, or individuals who did not join any factions what so ever
1:56
Tugboatfan4444
Okie, then we got the basic plot, I guess onto main background details then?
1:57
Toz76
Well, are we gonna bother with VEC/SOM/GOD/PIC?
1:57
Frankthetriviaman
And the story is redeeming the bad ones and eventually reuniting the Colormen
Down the line, maybe
I don't want to fall into one of the traps that doomed the main game
1:59
Tugboatfan4444
Probably after the first major defeat of the Evil Faction where they've lost power, VEC would probably be a faction that rose from a side that didn't agree with good/evil, since Bronze/Blood I think should stay ancient Colorfolk
1:59
Frankthetriviaman
having too many plots going at once
I would rather them be original villains with ties to the colorfolk necessarily (see prior explanation), but if the majority wants them to stay that way, I won't oppose
2:00
Toz76
I want to change VEC and GOD a lot to make them work better
2:00
Tugboatfan4444
SOM as well
2:00
Diesel 11
i'd like to tinker with the PIC some more too
2:01
Toz76
So for example, VEC is a lot more recent, say the great grandparents of the current Bronze and Blood
2:01
Frankthetriviaman
I already have an explanation in mind for the whole VEC questionable recruits thing
2:01
Tugboatfan4444
Maybe not make them OCs Donut Steel
2:01
Toz76
They're the ones that caused the schism in the color folk, but the evil ones cast them out
2:01
Tugboatfan4444
I'm fine with that, I quite liek that actually
2:02
Toz76
Then they teamed up with a few other evil mages and holed up in Diablo Tower studying the Horned One
2:02
Tugboatfan4444
IF you want we can have Man in Iron/Man in Steel work with Bronze/Blood, just they split after the four groups were cast out
2:02
Toz76
So after the first major arc, the defeated evil color folk seek them out
I do like that
Then they can seek out Man In Iron/Metalicana later on
2:03
Tugboatfan4444
Steel would probably become neutral, while Iron would probably end up as Metalicana somehow
2:03
Frankthetriviaman
See, right now, magic usage is at an all time low in the world
2:04
Tugboatfan4444
OR Metalicana is the son of the Original Man in Iron and a Darkness Dragon Lokaskaya
2:04
Frankthetriviaman
I gotta get it ironed out at some point, but that's the basic premise for why some magic users are questionably effective
2:05
Tugboatfan4444
Prism Magic and Dragon's Natural Magic Ability mix to create one of the strongest magical beings in existance
That was your original reason in the game as well
2:05
Frankthetriviaman
Yes, that is true
I said it, but I never quite explained why
I need to get that clarified in order to preserve the suspense of disbelief
2:06
Toz76
Which leads into my new idea for GOD, actually
GOD are like the big, global, evil faction that sort of acts as a puppet master for the other evil factions
But they're also a lot less competent, so they can be quickly overthrown
Or at least weakened
2:07
Tugboatfan4444
SOM will become more Mafia like probably/Family will play an important role
I think instead of an island we can make Elbaf a magical plane where all the magical creatures who needed magic to survive went to after it started to diminish
2:09
Toz76
That can work
Actually, maybe we should have SOM operate there, which would prevent them from just showing up out of nowhere like they sort of did in the game
2:11
Tugboatfan4444
I'm fine with that, I like that as well Toz
We could even do a plot where magic is leaking from Elbaf into the real world, and they don't know from where, so creatures are crossing over, so SOM sends Scouts the Colorfolk have to deal with
I
m liking the reboot already
*I'm
We should fix the emojis or maybe get a discord server
2:13
Frankthetriviaman
Agree
2:13
Toz76
We have a discord server
One sec
2:13
Frankthetriviaman
or at least have a video chat thing
2:14
Toz76
Actually, I could video chat now if you all want
You guys have Skype?
2:16
Tugboatfan4444
IT's almost 2:30 and I have a roomate
*roommate
Google Hangouts/Discord is where it's at Tozzer, get with it
2:17
Toz76
discord.gg/WfrjK5b
Tada
2:19
Frankthetriviaman
discord is safe, right?
It wants my email and a password
2:19
Toz76
Yep
2:20
Frankthetriviaman
Whose swagbot?
2:20
Toz76
A bot
I dunno
Ask Eyes or possibly TGC
2:20
Diesel 11
it's a bot
2:20
Toz76
That link should be permanent btw
If someone wants to stick it on the homepage
2:21
Tugboatfan4444
Put in it the free space
ON the homepage